i need amp help..[views:8386][posts:77]______________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 4:53pm - danny p nli ""] ok i own a VHT pitbull fifty and i just changed the EL34 tubes in it because one of the old ones broke. it sounded good for a few minutes and then made a bunch of weird noises and now when i turn it on, im not getting any sound.....does anyone know what the problem might be?? |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 4:59pm - Hooker nli ""] did you get matched tubes? |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 5:05pm - danny p nli ""] yeah as far as i know...they were given to me by our old guitarist, and he was always on top of shit like that |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 5:13pm - the rooster ""] it's probably not a fixed bias amp.... whenever you put in new tubes, the bias on the amp has to be adjusted to match the bias on the tubes. some amps have a "fixed" bias, while others have a bias adjuster built into them somewhere. i imagine your problem is that you need to have the amp's bias adjusted to match the tubes. i'd bring it to a shop or someone who knows what they're doing.... that's my best guess.... |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 5:17pm - KeithMutiny ""] throw it out an 8th story window, maybe 9th, i dont exactly recall, but that will usually solve the problem. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 5:18pm - RustedAngel ""] never change tubes yourself unless you know how to bias an amp. i.e. you need a voltmeter or whatever. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 6:39pm - niccolai nli ""] It needs to be biased, make sure your amp is set for EL34s and not other tube sizes (el34s are gay in the first place). Never attempt to service your amp yourself if you don't know exactly what your doing, tube amplifiers like your VHT and store lethal amount of electricity in the tubes for years without even being plugged in. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 8:36pm - danny p nli ""] hang on whats gay about EL34s? |
| ______________________________ [Aug 29,2005 8:37pm - blue ""] danny, get that shit done by a pro. i dont want to see the pitbull mistreated. it hurts my heart. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 8:40pm - anonymous ""] buy solid state its 2005 for christ sake you dont NEED tubes to sound good anymore! |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 8:55pm - RustedAngel ""] TUBE > SS period. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 9:02pm - retzam ""] anonymous said:buy solid state its 2005 for christ sake you dont NEED tubes to sound good anymore! You're hurting my wee little ears. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 9:05pm - litacore ""] SS for well over a decade when I got my JCM900 though I never looked back |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 9:07pm - anonymous ""] RustedAngel said:TUBE > SS period. :cd:=>:] ss>tubes period:middlefinger: |
| ______________________________ [Aug 29,2005 9:14pm - blue ""] you ears > some tube snobs biased opinion oooooooh snap |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 9:17pm - anonymous ""] hahaha to be honest i like the tube snobs theyre amusing ,theyre always online looking for help ,wondering why there tube amps dont work then they go and defend the things. only in america do you see shit like that! |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 9:20pm - danny p nli ""] in communist russia, tube defends you! |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 9:30pm - anonymous ""] danny p nli said:in communist russia, tube defends you! we arent in russia dipshit were in the u s of kickin a and over here we melt the cheese and play solid state,and when we record we do it digital!!:cd:=>:] tubes=:tightiewhities: |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:03pm - RustedAngel ""] I'm sorry but 90% of solid state amps sound like ass. The only modeler that can stand up to a real tube amp is a POD but it will never be REAL. Vox Valvetronix amps have a decent modeling system as well, still not the real thing. It has nothing to do with being in russia or being a 'snob'...very interesting how almost every metal (and not even metal) band records using a 5150/Mesa/Engl/JCM800's 900's. The most widely used probably the 5150 for even live situations. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:08pm - anonymous ""] i think you should go down to your local daddys{after you take your head out of your ass of course}and do some window shopping technology gets better everyday while your bullshit tubes get a little weaker. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:11pm - blue ""] i can definetly agree with tommy on certain spots, though. tube amps have a very distinct midrange which work wonderfully on recordings. but i can go either way as far as tube or solid state is concerned. i have owned both, and have thoroughly enjoyed both. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:12pm - danny p nli ""] yeah i pretty much wish i never made this thread so anonymous herbs couldnt try and tell me what to buy....thats obviously blues line of work. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:13pm - blue ""] YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:14pm - danny p nli ""] ps i made a fucking yakov smirnoff joke and no one got it... |
| _______________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:15pm - blue ""] i got it, im just not going to give you credit for being clever! back to talking about amps! hah! |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:16pm - anonymous ""] if you went solid state youd be playing guitar now instead of starting stupid 1980s threads about {i dont know what to do ! my tubes arent working ! wah wah wah} |
| _______________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:19pm - blue ""] dont act like youre any better by being biased to solid state, now. to each their own. as long as your tone isnt shit, you dont have anything to worry about. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:25pm - danny p nli ""] ps. i have another solid state amp im playing happily. all is well in the world of minding other peoples business |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:25pm - anonymous ""] blue said:dont act like youre any better by being biased to solid state, now. to each their own. as long as your tone isnt shit, you dont have anything to worry about. im just relly fed up with this tube,analog bullshit ,old way of doing things people just cling to them and wont hear anything else about it talking to alot of those people is like talking to born again christians ,you can back up what you say with facts and a faraway look comes into there eyes and they just wont hear it,...but anyway your right ultimately the tones all that matters! |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:28pm - anonymous ""] danny p nli said:ps. i have another solid state amp im playing happily. all is well in the world of minding other peoples business you started the thread fucko! i believe the title was "i need amp help" you kinda brought it on yourself anyway ...go digital or go home:cd:=>:] |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:38pm - powerkok ""] I use a pod into a mesa simul 295 tube amp...does that make me a hypocrite? I think ss amps are great for practice amps, but recording or stage....Ill choose tubes forever. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:44pm - anonymous ""] and how proud we all are of you!! |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:45pm - powerkok ""] well, ya....you should be, thats why I didnt ask for instant approval. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:46pm - powerkok ""] well, that and because I said it. So its obviously gonna be right. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:47pm - Paulll ""] I changed the tubes in my head sometime last year myself and my head hasnt had a problem at all in the sound.... i dont know ive got a 5150 evh model. I agree with tom nothing can beat a tube sound its a warm and natural tone that nothing can directly copy, and believe me every solid state tries to mimic the sound of a tube head no matter what. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:48pm - powerkok ""] but falls short in the FULL dept. always. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:49pm - powerkok ""] show me a ss that sounds like a tube and acts like a tube, and Ill buy it. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:49pm - anonymous ""] believe me every solid state tries to mimic the sound of a tube head no matter what. >> and theyve been doing it succesfully for some time now:middlefinger: |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:50pm - powerkok ""] name one ss amp that sounds like a tube amp |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:54pm - anonymous ""] line6 spider when set up properly old marshall i think it was the 800's or 900's most of peaveys ss amps are great and i even had a floor processor rp20 digitech taht sounded every bit as good as tubes oops wait a second that might have had tubes anyway the problem isnt tubes its that they wear out arent reliable and most importantly arent necessary anymore! |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:55pm - anonymous ""] youre in hand choke neck arent you? |
| __________________________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:55pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] danny, your amp rules. I hope it serves you well for many more years. thing is fucking aces. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 10:58pm - powerkok ""] anonymous said:youre in hand choke neck arent you? yes. Ive played a spider.....NEIN!! that DOES NOT sound like a tube amp dood....cmon. You say tubes arent needed? Then why are they still being produced? Why are so many tube ONLY amp companies still in business? |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 11:01pm - anonymous ""] fear of the future and retards who just wont let go... |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 11:02pm - anonymous ""] ha ha ha if you werent 23 percent gay youd understand ... |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 11:03pm - powerkok ""] lol....right. More like justifying being too frugal, and convincing myself my ss is as good as a tube......zing a liscious pally pal.... zing-the-fuck-aliscious. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 11:04pm - powerkok ""] ITS ONLY AT 23% CUZ I SHAVED MY SET ONCE. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 11:04pm - powerkok ""] :NEWHORNS: |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 11:04pm - anonymous ""] ha ha ha the imp[ortant thing is that you like your sound wether its ss or tube can we agree on that? |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2005 11:05pm - anonymous ""] powerkok said:ITS ONLY AT 23% CUZ I SHAVED MY SET ONCE. :NEWHORNS:did she talk you into it or was it your idea? |